relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

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i-jerry
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relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

Postby i-jerry » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:51 am

Hello everyone,

My son is 5 and half and has autism, he also suffering bloating and inflammation in his gut maybe in brain as well. I'm trying so many things but not very helpful. I would like to know does colostrum could convert to Gcmaf in the body by itself? I just found this drink this morning and looks good to fix bloating and leaky gut.

http://www.alternavita.com/quick-start-gut-fix/

Can anyone give me any advise, please? Thanks in advance.

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Re: relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

Postby Nikkie111 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:01 am

We tried colostrum and whey protein not sure we saw anything bloating continued... The latter has a lot of glutamate as well

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Re: relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

Postby Nikkie111 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:01 am

We tried colostrum and whey protein not sure we saw anything bloating continued... The latter has a lot of glutamate as well

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Re: relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

Postby i-jerry » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:25 am

thank you Nikk. We are thinking to use oral colostrum Gcmaf, but still not to sure because it's manufacture in Japan

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Re: relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

Postby Nikkie111 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:50 pm

i-jerry wrote:thank you Nikk. We are thinking to use oral colostrum Gcmaf, but still not to sure because it's manufacture in Japan

Ah that one yes I'm getting it as well next nonth it should be ok it's from really good research organisation
But that is not just colostrum that converts to gcmaf that does have bovine gcmaf

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Re: relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

Postby varen2@gmail.com » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:23 pm

We had great results with Goat Colostrum (Powder form from Mt Capra) and with raw Camel Colostrum (very expensive and rare).
We tried bovine (cow) colostrum with bad results (regression).

My son has Yeast overgrowth and bacterial overgrowth in his gut.
Colostrum treats leaky gut. I think it only works after being on gluten-free, sugar-free, yeast-free, dairy-free diet for quite a while. Yeast (Candida) can penetrate intestinal walls as well as bacteria making the gut "leaky". So, when the bad bacteria and yeast dies, the wall becomes "leaky". This is when colostrum helps to rebuilt the intestinal wall. Our intestinal wall is made of specific protein found in colostrum. When the wall is "destroyed" and has "holes", no matter how much probiotic you take, the good bacteria cannot attach to the intestinal wall to "recolonize" the gut. Colostrum helps rebuilt the wall creating space for the good bacteria to attach and regrow.

Colostrum is best to take together with probiotic in the morning 30 minutes before food, and again at night before bed.

In case with my son, he's been on a diet and Nystatin for 2 years, but he was getting more and more sensitive to different foods. I think his gut was getting more "leaky" because he was getting rid of yeast and bacteria. I also took colostrum and it worked for me too the same way. My food sensitivities got better.

After taking colostrum, my son gets spaced out for 2 hours, but then he gets much better. His speech gets better, he is happy, singing songs and using new words. His eye contact also gets better.

A huge boost was from Camel colostrum (raw, 5ml twice a day). The camel dairy dosen't have any more right now so we can't buy any more. But we're getting a similar effect that lasts (he is just getting better) with powder goat colostrum (Mt. Capra brand).

Your child might not be there yet (if he still has a lot of bad bacteria and no exposed walls), you might not see the same results right away. But colostrum is also good for all sorts of things. My son doesn't get colds, he has more energy, no running nose. I think colostrum helps get rid of bad strep bacteria in the gut as well.

Mt. Capra colostrum powder is a mix of dry colostrum and dry goat milk. I found that giving my son powder has mixed results. You never know how much colostrum was in that dose of goat milk powder. The colostrum itself is clear or white granules. I use a sieve to separate colostrum granules from goat cream. When I sift powder through a sieve, I only have colostrum granules left.

Then I use very sensitive weights to measure 10 mg of colostrum:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ESHDG ... 1PIBKZ0_ri


We've started with 10 mg of colostrum powder 2 months ago and now he takes 35 mg twice a day. It's a huge boost for his speech. We stopped homeopathic remedies because they do the same thing as colostrum, and he can't take them at the same time.

Camel milk can also interfere with colostrum. If you give them together, you'll need to work out the appropriate dose. Too much will make your child cranky, too little won't have any effect.

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Re: relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

Postby i-jerry » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:46 am

thank you to Nikki and Varen. Yes we had gf cf, sugar free, fruit free, grain free,,,,,since last June. We can feel my son has yeast problem even with so limited diet. Currently he has threelac everydaym it helps in the beginning but not any more.

We introduce raw camel milk since 2nd March. It seems helps him on speech and he started to sing a song at home. However, we found bloating it getting worse and his big belly is back. I couldn't find raw camel colostrum in the UK unfortunately. I'm so glad your child has positive feedback from it. :D

Many thanks for the link and i'm going to have a look now.

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Re: relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

Postby i-jerry » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:03 am

Nikkie111 wrote:
i-jerry wrote:thank you Nikk. We are thinking to use oral colostrum Gcmaf, but still not to sure because it's manufacture in Japan

Ah that one yes I'm getting it as well next nonth it should be ok it's from really good research organisation
But that is not just colostrum that converts to gcmaf that does have bovine gcmaf


Hi Nikkie, i had a new question, how do you give Oregano Oil to your child? I bought a bottle last week but the taste like mixed mint and chill :oops: my son cant drink it with milk and i couldn't either. Thanks a lot

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Re: relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

Postby i-jerry » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:03 am

also, do I need leave gap between probiotic and Oregano Oil? thank you

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Re: relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

Postby Nikkie111 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:40 am

i-jerry wrote:
Nikkie111 wrote:
i-jerry wrote:thank you Nikk. We are thinking to use oral colostrum Gcmaf, but still not to sure because it's manufacture in Japan

Ah that one yes I'm getting it as well next nonth it should be ok it's from really good research organisation
But that is not just colostrum that converts to gcmaf that does have bovine gcmaf


Hi Nikkie, i had a new question, how do you give Oregano Oil to your child? I bought a bottle last week but the taste like mixed mint and chill :oops: my son cant drink it with milk and i couldn't either. Thanks a lot

Hiya, I don't give oregano oil at all it's pretty potent and I'm not sure about giving something that starts killing stuff iykwim
If it's for yeast can you give something like Yeast Aid? It has lots of biotin in there which is supposed to help

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Re: relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

Postby i-jerry » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:17 am

Nikkie111 wrote:
i-jerry wrote:
Nikkie111 wrote:Ah that one yes I'm getting it as well next nonth it should be ok it's from really good research organisation
But that is not just colostrum that converts to gcmaf that does have bovine gcmaf


Hi Nikkie, i had a new question, how do you give Oregano Oil to your child? I bought a bottle last week but the taste like mixed mint and chill :oops: my son cant drink it with milk and i couldn't either. Thanks a lot

Hiya, I don't give oregano oil at all it's pretty potent and I'm not sure about giving something that starts killing stuff iykwim
If it's for yeast can you give something like Yeast Aid? It has lots of biotin in there which is supposed to help


thank you. I have a look on Yeast Aid. by the way, do you still use Symprove probiotic on your child? It is pretty good but only has 4 bacteria. I'm thinking to find other one and change them every 3 or 6 month.

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Re: relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

Postby Nikkie111 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:49 am

Yes I still use it but rotating it is a good plan
I just don't want to mess too much with probiotics :D

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Re: relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

Postby varen2@gmail.com » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:33 pm

i-jerry wrote:thank you to Nikki and Varen. Yes we had gf cf, sugar free, fruit free, grain free,,,,,since last June. We can feel my son has yeast problem even with so limited diet. Currently he has threelac everydaym it helps in the beginning but not any more.

We introduce raw camel milk since 2nd March. It seems helps him on speech and he started to sing a song at home. However, we found bloating it getting worse and his big belly is back. I couldn't find raw camel colostrum in the UK unfortunately. I'm so glad your child has positive feedback from it. :D

Many thanks for the link and i'm going to have a look now.


Camel milk cleanses liver. My son had great results for a few months then he's started reacting with aggression. Raw camel milk helps bifidum bacteria to grow in the gut. Since my son has too much bifidum and not enough lacto bacteria in his gut (most autistic kids do), I think it's not working for him any more. I do give camel milk occasionally, like once every few days. Usually when he is cranky.. I think when there is a build up of toxins in his liver, he needs Camel milk. But I no longer give camel milk to him daily.

Common symptoms of Yeast is: laughing without any reason (silliness), walking in circles, difficulty concentrating on a task. I would say laughing without a reason and silly look on a face is the most common symptom. My son has been taking Nystatin for 2 years now and when the dose is low or he misses Nystatin dose, I see this reaction.

You should try goat colostrum, most kids with bovine sensitivity can tolerate goat milk. My son is dairy-free, but he drinks pasteurized goat milk. He can't eat goat cheese or yogurt though.

We take "l Plantarum" from Custom probiotics with goat colostrum twice a day. Suggested child dose doesn't work for him, but triple dose (3 small child size scoops of this probiotic) makes him social and alert. He tells me how much he loves me when taking this probiotic. It's huge for him as he is still not as social as normal kids, we're working on this aspect now. Seem to work for him, although we're still experimenting with this probiotic.

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Re: relationship between Colostrum and Gcmaf?

Postby i-jerry » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:32 am

varen2@gmail.com wrote:
i-jerry wrote:thank you to Nikki and Varen. Yes we had gf cf, sugar free, fruit free, grain free,,,,,since last June. We can feel my son has yeast problem even with so limited diet. Currently he has threelac everydaym it helps in the beginning but not any more.

We introduce raw camel milk since 2nd March. It seems helps him on speech and he started to sing a song at home. However, we found bloating it getting worse and his big belly is back. I couldn't find raw camel colostrum in the UK unfortunately. I'm so glad your child has positive feedback from it. :D

Many thanks for the link and i'm going to have a look now.


Camel milk cleanses liver. My son had great results for a few months then he's started reacting with aggression. Raw camel milk helps bifidum bacteria to grow in the gut. Since my son has too much bifidum and not enough lacto bacteria in his gut (most autistic kids do), I think it's not working for him any more. I do give camel milk occasionally, like once every few days. Usually when he is cranky.. I think when there is a build up of toxins in his liver, he needs Camel milk. But I no longer give camel milk to him daily.

Common symptoms of Yeast is: laughing without any reason (silliness), walking in circles, difficulty concentrating on a task. I would say laughing without a reason and silly look on a face is the most common symptom. My son has been taking Nystatin for 2 years now and when the dose is low or he misses Nystatin dose, I see this reaction.

You should try goat colostrum, most kids with bovine sensitivity can tolerate goat milk. My son is dairy-free, but he drinks pasteurized goat milk. He can't eat goat cheese or yogurt though.

We take "l Plantarum" from Custom probiotics with goat colostrum twice a day. Suggested child dose doesn't work for him, but triple dose (3 small child size scoops of this probiotic) makes him social and alert. He tells me how much he loves me when taking this probiotic. It's huge for him as he is still not as social as normal kids, we're working on this aspect now. Seem to work for him, although we're still experimenting with this probiotic.


Hi Varen, thank you for your explanation and i have some idea why he has both positive and negative behaviour with camel milk. I stop his camel milk from yeasterday and increase l-gultamine does for a month and see difference. Acutally we already see some such as his behaviour(he makes strange and sharp sound from throat, and runing(not circle run) a lot at home) is better once we stop it, but his speech seems down to his level as well.

I will have a look on goat milk and colostrum and hope it could help on him.


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